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    Post  gdog1666 Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:56 pm

    Hey guys, I've been playing 2 to 7 triple draw on PokerStars and would like to know any good sources of info on this crazy game.

    I have googled it but only found limited info

    Anyhelp would be great

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    Post  wildrick Wed Jul 07, 2010 1:44 pm

    hi gdog, and welcome

    Its not a game I've ever played, I love all forms of flop and stud based poker, whether normal, hilo, or low, but I've never been a fan of any draw games at all really.

    A bit of random googling turned up this article: http://www.cardplayer.com/cardplayer-magazines/81-17-1/articles/13737-triple-draw but I'm sure somebody can do better lol

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    Post  gdog1666 Wed Jul 07, 2010 2:33 pm

    Cheers mate, I have seen that one but any help is great. If anyone else has any info that would be great, I know super system has a few bits so I will have to keep looking

    Thanks again
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    Post  Chipped Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:19 am

    There's definitely a lowball book out by Mason Malmuth, however not owning a copy, I can't remember the title or vouch for its contents!
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    Post  Chipped Sat Jul 10, 2010 5:27 am

    A spot of the ol' goog has informed me it's called "Winning Concepts in Draw & Lowball" so there's a reasonable chance it covers the game your after I suppose.

    Google also informs me that Super System 2 contains a chapter on the game.

    As for information on the internet, the most interesting snippet I could find was that "Jack high is always favourite against someone drawing one card, and Q high is always favourite over someone drawing 2 cards". Some fun maths going on there!
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    Post  gdog1666 Sat Jul 10, 2010 11:49 am

    Cheers all will check it out

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    Post  Bubster Sat Jul 10, 2010 2:10 pm

    Hmmm, not played this game before, but judging by the lack of info about the game, it might be quite nice soft action online!
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    Post  wildrick Sun Jul 11, 2010 8:35 am

    Chipped wrote:As for information on the internet, the most interesting snippet I could find was that "Jack high is always favourite against someone drawing one card, and Q high is always favourite over someone drawing 2 cards". Some fun maths going on there!

    Well the one card draw isn't too bad....

    Assume that the guy drawing one card has 4 cards under a jack with no pair and not all the same suit - ie he's not a total fish.

    You must have 4 cards under a Jack yourself to have the J high low.

    The best case scenrio for him is that you have the same 4 cards, as he has to hit a card that doesnt make him a pair, if you have different low cards you take away up to 4 of his outs.

    So there's 36 cards in deck for him to hit that are under J, of which he has 4, and 12 others give him a pair (or you have), which leaves 20 outs for him.

    There's 10 known cards (5 in your hand, 4 in his, and the one he's discarded) leaving 42 unknowns.

    So that gives him a 20/42 shot at best, just under 48%. If you have different low cards he can only get worse.

    And yes i realise its triple draw so some of the discards could count as known cards, but it's fairly hard to factor it in! Also you could of discarded some of his outs if they paired your own hand, so that evens it up a tad mbe...

    Oh and the odds get slightly worse for the drawer as occasionally he might be drawing to a str8 as well, in which case some of his outs will be gone, ie if he has 2356 he cant hit the 4...

    And drawing 2 is just annoying, so i wont bother, lol/

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    Post  gdog1666 Sun Jul 11, 2010 9:30 am

    All good advice I say.

    Just had to reload my bankroll on stars, but I hope to get much better at this quirky but fun game.

    Just have to knucle down and play this game and put the PLO and NLH on hold for a while.

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    Post  MADV Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:38 pm

    At the request of Rick, GDog I have Super System 2 in .pdf form if you'd like it. Please PM me your e-mail address. That goes for anyone else who likes poker books. I have plenty.

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    Post  gdog1666 Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:53 pm

    Thanks MADV will give you a shoutout on our poker podcast on Tuesday, wont say why (could get you into trouble of course)but the fact you helped me out.

    I dont know if the admin allows links to podcasts ie not trying to get free adverstising but if its ok I will post up the site address and podcast's when I get the go ahead
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    Post  MADV Thu Jul 15, 2010 1:41 am

    gdog1666 wrote:Thanks MADV will give you a shoutout on our poker podcast on Tuesday, wont say why (could get you into trouble of course)but the fact you helped me out.

    I dont know if the admin allows links to podcasts ie not trying to get free adverstising but if its ok I will post up the site address and podcast's when I get the go ahead

    I'm sure Rick will be fine with that but you'd best wait for his say-so. I;ll check the podcast out this week. I've seen you advertising this elsewhere but never listened in. Guess this week I'll have to! What time's it start?
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    Post  gdog1666 Sat Jul 17, 2010 1:05 pm

    8:30 pm GMT
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    Post  Evo397bhp Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:02 pm

    have to ask ...

    Why the hell would you want to play this crazy game ?? do you play razz also !! lol

    GLGL
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    Post  wildrick Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:14 pm

    n1 Vad, thought you had a copy Wink

    gdog1666 wrote:
    I dont know if the admin allows links to podcasts ie not trying to get free adverstising but if its ok I will post up the site address and podcast's when I get the go ahead

    Affiliate links, Rakeback links = nope

    Links to Podcasts by our members = Definitely fine!

    Feel free to stick a link to it in your signature... hit profile in the top menu, then "signature" in the lower menu when it appears.

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    Post  gdog1666 Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:52 pm

    Thanks Rick, now added to sig...

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