Was this good or bad play?

I got slated by a decent player - however he did say I only had 4 outs lol.

This was a $250 buy in mtt on ladbrokes. I think that this a great example of playing to win the tournament although I would have had a real tough decision to make if the big stack had called or rr to isolate.

Very interesting hand though imo.

** Hand # 1114488703 starting - 2009-01-22 16:57:56
** $4,000 GTD $250 Freezeout[1736056]:Table 1 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (150.00|300.00 NL - MTT) Real Money

bookiebasher sitting in seat 1 with 12307.50
THE--HAT sitting in seat 2 with 3960.00
ShaneMcG sitting in seat 3 with 10715.00
Atyeo sitting in seat 4 with 12030.00
VISA2005 sitting in seat 5 with 8970.00[Dealer]
banksoir sitting in seat 6 with 10740.00
Scooby666 sitting in seat 7 with 15297.50
martynf1 sitting in seat 8 with 5337.50
DODDY17 sitting in seat 9 with 2095.00
TICKETS sitting in seat 10 with 3322.50
banksoir posted the small blind - 75.00
Scooby666 posted the big blind - 150.00

** Dealing cards to banksoir:
martynf1 folded
DODDY17 folded
TICKETS raised to 600.00
bookiebasher called - 600.00
THE--HAT folded
ShaneMcG folded
Atyeo folded
VISA2005 folded
banksoir called - 600.00
Scooby666 folded

** Dealing the flop: , ,
banksoir checked
TICKETS bet - 1200.00
bookiebasher folded
banksoir went all-in - 10215.00
TICKETS went all-in - 1522.50
TICKETS shows: ,

** Dealing the turn:

** Dealing the river:
banksoir wins 7395.00 from the main pot



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Awaiting Rick to post the maths behind this as I believe that I was a favourite on that flop?

nh banksy

Sorry for the delay in maths, was busy putting the cards in your hand for ya Now all you have to do is put a : before and after each card like : Ah :, without the spaces, and voila, you have nice easy to read cards

At first glance you appear to have 9 diamonds, 3 kings, 3 aces and 3 nines to hit giving you 18 outs, and over 60% equity, but since he has 2 of your kings your prob nearer 55%

In terms of play, there was value preflop with a raise and a call, a med suited ace is more than playable here with your stack as you well know. Once that flop comes down you aren't folding, especially once the bigger stack passes.

Not sure which bit you were being slated for, but i can't see anything wrong myself. 525 into 1400 pre, with plenty of chips behind, and only one player to act after you. You check the flop, so tickets bets other guy out of pot for you, at which point its only a quarter of your stack in a situation where worst case scenario (He has QQ) you're 35% ish getting 2 to 1 on your money. So worst case scenario youre getting good pot odds, easy push.

Now get on and win it m8y, 7 left, your 2nd, looking nice wpwp

I dont always advocate just calling from the sb as you have to play the rest of the hand oop to the rest of the table, but for sure you are doing it with the right kind of hand, if you flop the Ace only you can probably get away from it so you are looking to hit big.
You hit your gin flop and yes of course you are happy to get the chips in a favorite, I dont really like the shove, I think its a bit see through and looks exactly what you have, I think a raise to 4200 (with a view to calling a reshove) will be far more thought envoking and could get your opponent to lay his holding on this flop giving you more chances to win the hand.

Forget that, I just saw he only had 1500 behind....but I wont edit it....im interested to know what you would have done had he 11k behind?

I had decided that even if the big stack (11k) had raised or called that I was shoving, only 3 get aid in this tournament and as you know I always play to win.

I racked up in my brain that even if I was behind I had so many outs that it was worth the push.

As it turned out it was......


The tourny just finished and I won it for $2150 - I sattelkited into this this morning for just $15 and a $15 add on so excellent profit.

Thanks for your thoughts guys!

Not too sure on the out of position call here but once the flop comes down spot on play in my eyes had similar hand live on Saturday live but i had position on 3 guys in pot same result and i got some moron questioning my reraise on flop.
Mind you same guy called my reraise allin with J10 and when i showed my AQ he said "At least its 5050"

Who was the so called good player that questioned you? cause theres only 3 including yourself at that table

hmm, i make it 4 Jon, who don't you rate? lol

wildrick wrote:hmm, i make it 4 Jon, who don't you rate? lol

Ditto so who's in the "bad book" lol

Hey everyone!

I have a fairly interesting hand to discuss.

It is the very first hand of a 10$ tourny. Startstacks are 3000.
Im dealt AK off and make it 3xBB 60. I get two callers in the offcut and SB.

Flop comes Qs Js 10c.

SB checks and I bet 120 into the 200 pott. The offcut calls and SB folds.

Turn is Jh

I bet 380 into the 440 pott and only other player left in the pott calls again.

River is 2c and I bet 520 into the 1k plus pott.
Offcut player moves allin. Should I get away from it or should I call?? I have around 1700 left
I called.. I think it was mostly to the fact that it was a 10$ tourny and that players tend to move in with trips or even top pair often. If I thought it was a good player I prob woulda folded. I'll tell you after a few comments what he had. I did not put him on his hand..

Problem here is that irrespective of what he had you didnt give too much thought as to what he might have.
As soon as the board pairs you should have slowed down and controlled the pot size . What hand would you have called 60 chips in the 1st hand of mtt?

QJ 1010 jj QQ J10 by the river they all beat u.
Easy pass on river in my eyes really you need to get some sessions on controlling pot size and analysing people ranges.

Hi Calle m8, nice to have you on our forum

It doesnt look good for you in this hand, as i can only really put him on flopped set

Not the easiest fold by any means, but when he flat calls on the turn, i'm shutting down really. If he's flushing, and misses, he isn't calling anything on river, and if he has you beat he's reraising. Theres prob a few hands where if you check to him on river he's behind, but still betting it, like AJ / KJ, so i think i'm happy to check/call on the river, assuming he doesnt shove if you check. Having bet heavily and been reraised, im folding there, especially first hand, but you can avoid the problem by keepin the pot a bit smaller.