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    Post  swishtony Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:38 pm

    Been a while for a 'WWYD' from me so here we go scratch

    Maybe shouldn't be playing 97 soooted but good value to see a flop, 6/1 roughly.

    ** Hand # 2495161620 starting - 2009-03-20 21:15:12
    ** $2,000 GTD $5 NLHE 2nd Chance PLUS[2837840]:Table 8 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (40.00|80.00 NL - MTT) Real Money

    swans_hunter sitting in seat 1 with 3230.00
    grimmy7 sitting in seat 2 with 5405.00
    swish_tony sitting in seat 3 with 4480.00
    paul016 sitting in seat 4 with 3368.75
    mossip80 sitting in seat 5 with 2852.50[Dealer]
    Stook sitting in seat 6 with 1185.00
    tescoAAA sitting in seat 7 with 7042.50
    Chuzwozzer sitting in seat 8 with 3425.00
    wottty70 sitting in seat 9 with 3711.25
    roman_reel sitting in seat 10 with 1780.00
    Stook posted the small blind - 20.00
    tescoAAA posted the big blind - 40.00

    ** Dealing cards to swish_tony: 7h 9h
    Chuzwozzer called - 40.00
    wottty70 folded
    roman_reel folded
    swans_hunter folded
    grimmy7 called - 40.00
    swish_tony called - 40.00
    paul016 called - 40.00
    mossip80 raised to 160.00
    Stook called - 160.00
    tescoAAA called - 160.00
    Chuzwozzer folded
    grimmy7 called - 160.00
    swish_tony called - 160.00
    paul016 folded

    ** Dealing the flop: 10s Ah 8h
    Stook checked
    tescoAAA checked
    grimmy7 checked
    swish_tony checked
    mossip80 bet - 880.00

    So WWYD? The guy has been super loose, previous hand called a 5XBB pre-flop raise with K5 plus some other very loose calls. I was pretty sure he didn't have an ace here
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    Post  remember91 Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:42 pm

    why call in the 1st place with a maniac to play. if l made ur play l'd have called
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    Post  remember91 Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:48 pm

    if l think l'm behind l'll fold pre flop, tried the odds thing pre and lost my game for a while.
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    Post  remember91 Fri Mar 20, 2009 4:51 pm

    as soon as the raise came in l'd have been ootski pre
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    Post  khenny Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:21 pm

    remember91 wrote:as soon as the raise came in l'd have been ootski pre

    Initially he has a look with suited connectors and calls for 40. By the time it gets back to him (hes last to call the raiser) the pot is somewhere near 800 and he only has to put in 120 more. You would have folded????????

    Add to that he has more outs than one of Eltons parties.......................

    I lump here against a guy I have covered in a rebuy mtt.

    ul m8
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    Post  khenny Fri Mar 20, 2009 5:25 pm

    remember91 wrote:if l think l'm behind l'll fold pre flop, tried the odds thing pre and lost my game for a while.


    huh
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    Post  Evo397bhp Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:32 am

    Hmm one of my fave hands suited 1 gappers that run odd numbers..

    I certainly would have flipped in a limp to the flop like you did and with the raise and calls then great value for another 120, monster flop for your hand IMO, with 3 checks before you and the original raiser Cbetting in last pos i'd bee looking at him on AT+ may be AA (we can hope) i'd expect an AJ+ in one of the checkers before you this is a slight pain as it's one of your outs may be an over flush KQh ish, so i'd hope for a flat call to his 800 raise not essential for my play but makes the pot sweeter...and think ya know whats comming I'M ALL IN...the guys pretty much committed and will chase his hand but wit any 6,J or heart i'll flip for it and you cover his stack, the danger player is "tescoAAA" he likes to flat with AQ AK but thats fine here and if i didn't catch 3 way i'd be disapointed Very Happy
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    Post  Banksoir Sun Mar 22, 2009 3:19 pm

    facts:

    awesome flop for you with loads of outs
    quite possible the guy is bluffing
    if you call you are probably favourite against top pair
    if you lose the hand you still have roughly 2k left
    lots of play left in the tourny

    Given all of the above I would re-raise all in to isolate the situation, you can't fold to a re-re-raise all in as you are so committed into this pot and you re-raising all in looks very strong.

    Interesting post, but a thing to consider is that it is a $5 buy in mtt, and without sounding offensive you can easily give opponents too much respect in these tournaments...

    Nice post!
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    Post  swishtony Sun Mar 22, 2009 4:45 pm

    Cheers for the replies!

    Well this is how it panned out:

    ** Dealing the flop: 10s Ah 8h
    Stook checked
    tescoAAA checked
    grimmy7 checked
    swish_tony checked
    mossip80 bet - 880.00
    Stook folded
    tescoAAA folded
    grimmy7 folded
    swish_tony raised to 3520.00
    mossip80 went all-in - 1812.50
    mossip80 shows: 10h Ks

    ** Dealing the turn: 10c

    ** Dealing the river: Ac
    mossip80 wins 6265.00 from the main pot


    As ypu guys say, pretty awesome flop and other than 779 799 777 or 999 couldnt ask for much more... well maybe 5h 6h 8h Very Happy

    Firstly I didn't think he had an ace so if I re-raised him he might at least put me on one and therefore fold 2nd pair. Was wanting to check raise, thought it looked strong, opponent bviously didn't think so! Even if he has an ace or any other pair I am still liking my odds, even after the turn I'm still liking my chances.

    Just posted this question as the guy said to me 'I knew you were flush drawing' and I wondered if the way I played the hand made it that obvious? A few hands later I realised the guy was clueless when I knocked him out in the following hand. I have to post the hand so you can see just how unbelievably awful he was lol

    ** Hand # 2495319599 starting - 2009-03-20 22:12:07
    ** $2,000 GTD $5 NLHE 2nd Chance PLUS[2837840]:Table 8 [Multi Table Hold 'em] (200.00|400.00 NL - MTT) Real Money

    swans_hunter sitting in seat 1 with 3845.00
    ducko1 sitting in seat 2 with 3480.00[Sitting out]
    swish_tony sitting in seat 3 with 3560.00
    irishpoker sitting in seat 4 with 3707.50
    mossip80 sitting in seat 5 with 3710.00
    Stook sitting in seat 6 with 14891.25[Dealer]
    Chuzwozzer sitting in seat 8 with 4430.00
    fishn4chips sitting in seat 9 with 18306.25
    roman_reel sitting in seat 10 with 20140.00
    Chuzwozzer ante'd - 15.00
    fishn4chips ante'd - 15.00
    roman_reel ante'd - 15.00
    swans_hunter ante'd - 15.00
    ducko1 ante'd - 15.00
    swish_tony ante'd - 15.00
    irishpoker ante'd - 15.00
    mossip80 ante'd - 15.00
    Stook ante'd - 15.00
    Chuzwozzer posted the small blind - 100.00
    fishn4chips posted the big blind - 200.00

    ** Dealing cards to swish_tony: Js Ah
    roman_reel folded
    swans_hunter folded
    ducko1 folded
    swish_tony raised to 600.00
    irishpoker folded
    mossip80 called - 600.00
    Stook folded
    Chuzwozzer folded
    fishn4chips folded

    ** Dealing the flop: 4h Ad Qd
    swish_tony bet - 1000.00
    mossip80 went all-in - 3095.00
    swish_tony went all-in - 1945.00

    mossip80 shows: Kd 9c scratch scratch lol

    ** Dealing the turn: Qs

    ** Dealing the river: 5d

    swish_tony wins 7525.00 from the main pot
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    Post  wildrick Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:02 am

    played it fine imho, once youve limped pre you have to call the raise, and a check raise shove on the flop is great.

    When he says "I knew you were flush drawin" he actually means "I hoped to fck you were flush drawin cos i couldnt beat anything else". Just ul.

    Nice exit for him tho haha.

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    Post  khenny Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:04 am

    Overall opinion is you played it correctly m8. Fooking hilarious hand he lumped with! Revenge is so sweet.

    I guess he didn't stick around long enough to tell you what he thought about how you played the second hand!!


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