over betting nuts!

ok experts!! here is my problem and i do it time and time again!!

last week i was sitting second in the stars 20$ freezeout and had a big stack,around 45k,chippie was i think 49k and we were more or less dominant over what remained.

he was sitting in my bb and we both saw a flop.i hit KKK(pocket kings in my hand of something like 23kk) and i pot bet it.he called.turn gave him a flush draw,but i was still ahead,pot bet it something like 16k now and the fucker still called,hit his flush and more or less disabled me(think i went out two hands later).

The point i am making really or am wondering amongst those of you who are far better than me,is should i be pot betting when i have nuts,or should i be giving myself some sort of fold equity? am i giving him odds to call,however dreadful his call may be? i find i have done this a lot when in strong positions,flopping the nuts,betting it,then being called and ultimately outdrawn.mainly in omaha hilo where frankly the outs to beat me are generally much higher.interested in any views on this,from both a hilo and of course a holdem player perspective.

hope my point is clear,as i tend to waffle lol.

Here is one example.I may well have played this badly,not sure,but am interested in comments,regardless of whether or not they are critical.
** Hand # 1110528486 starting - 2009-01-14 22:57:33
** $1500 GTD $10 Omaha H/L Pot Limit Rebuy[1733216]:Table 4 [Multi Table Omaha H/L] (800.00|1600.00 PL - MTT) Real Money

georgioser sitting in seat 1 with 27311.65
paddyslad sitting in seat 2 with 22975.64
KenaSpotty sitting in seat 3 with 10678.75
Manicboy sitting in seat 4 with 13827.50[Dealer]
coyote90 sitting in seat 5 with 13410.00
guldkasse sitting in seat 7 with 25586.69
reeebok sitting in seat 8 with 22255.15
LANGERS sitting in seat 9 with 12510.45
reggy sitting in seat 10 with 2820.31
paddyslad > do u know i have said nh to about five people tonight and feck all dont think i will bother anymore
coyote90 posted the small blind - 400.00
guldkasse posted the big blind - 800.00

** Dealing cards to LANGERS: , , ,
reeebok called - 800.00
LANGERS called - 800.00
LANGERS > indeed
reggy called - 800.00
georgioser folded
paddyslad called - 800.00
KenaSpotty folded
Manicboy folded
coyote90 called - 800.00
guldkasse checked

** Dealing the flop: , ,
reeebok > ive never had a nh
coyote90 checked
guldkasse checked
reeebok checked
LANGERS bet - 4800.00
reggy folded
paddyslad folded
coyote90 folded
guldkasse called - 4800.00
reeebok folded

** Dealing the turn:
guldkasse checked
LANGERS went all-in - 6910.45
guldkasse called - 6910.45
guldkasse shows: , ,,

** Dealing the river:
LANGERS > yup
guldkasse wins 28220.90 from the main pot

46 left.280 runners.45 paid.I am sitting second.

PokerStars Game #23015478582: Tournament #127009197, $20+$2 Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level XI (400/800) - 2008/12/17 20:26:52 ET
Table '127009197 1' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: viva (7840 in chips)
Seat 2: leonardop4 (6780 in chips)
Seat 3: IDIOTsavant9 (4080 in chips)
Seat 4: danicci1141 (19798 in chips)
Seat 5: DavyLang (35391 in chips)
Seat 6: Rounder_0007 (34999 in chips)
Seat 9: stokie (9050 in chips)
viva: posts small blind 400
leonardop4: posts big blind 800
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to DavyLang [ ]
IDIOTsavant9: folds
danicci1141: folds
DavyLang: raises 2000 to 2800
Rounder_0007: calls 2800
stokie: folds
viva: folds
leonardop4: folds
*** FLOP *** [ ]
DavyLang: checks
Rounder_0007: bets 3200
DavyLang: raises 13200 to 16400
Rounder_0007: calls 13200
*** TURN *** [ ]
DavyLang: bets 16191 and is all-in
Rounder_0007: calls 15799 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (392) returned to DavyLang
*** RIVER *** [ ]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
DavyLang: shows [ ] (HI: three of a kind, Kings)
Rounder_0007: shows [ ] (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,7,5,3,A)
Rounder_0007 collected 35599 from pot
Rounder_0007 collected 35599 from pot

woof couple of very un fun hands there m8 ul.

My first rule of hilo unfortunately applies to both these hands - Dont play KK. Unless the other 2 cards are both wheel cards, i flat fold KK. Just so sick the number of times it gets done over like that. I've gone out of hil tourns with KK so many times it's not funny.

Without 2 wheel cards you're just drawing to 2 outs or a second nut flush. Thats ok in hold'em and omaha, but in hilo the extra draw potential of a possible low coupled with wrap str8 draws, people just can't fold, as you know.

So, for starters, dont play KK lol. Im serious tho, I literally flat fold it in hilo tourns unless it has 2 (different) wheel cards with it.

This is well demonstrated in the KK22 hand - on the K78 flop against his hand you've actually only got about 50% equity! With him having 3 low cards, meaning he can hit any low card to take half, he's going to hit a low about 70% of the time, leaving you scooping about 25%!!

When i find myself in this situation, where i have top trips but no back up str8 low or flush draws, i tend to bet small on the flop, with the hope of building the pot by getting more than one caller.

Hopefully you size it right so that you get more than one caller, and if the turn brings in something where KK is still nuts, but not house or quads, then you can make the full pot bet for a similar size to the one you made after betting full pot on flop. The difference now is that your oppo hasnt committed as much money to the pot. He's getting bad odds either way by this point, but if he put less in on the flop, he'll feel less committed, and you might get a fold.

Ofthen theres nowt you can do, and you do want to get some chips in the pot, but without any back up draws, youre often best off not gettting in the situation in the first place.

Incidentally in the KK22 hand, with 50% equity, you'd of had over 70% equity holding A2KK, and the same 70% holding even KK24. I refer you to my first rule lol.

If you were playing omaha, the KK22 hand you would have 73% equity, but hilo is a bit more sneaky lol.

makes a lot of sense when put like that mate,that is exactly the kind of answer i was hoping for.i think in the heat of battle you see and know your ahead and its hard not to aggrssively play it to get the fold,but as we know,often folding is never in the mind of the other player.

i think i need to improve on my thinking and take my time a bit more when in hands,i think i rush a tad.cheers for the post,that's the kind of reply i was after,cheers.