First hand of $30 turbo

so if you knew he had K10, you fold? yeah owned, lmfao. All i said was it was a weird reraise, and i doubted he had AA or KK, and I was certainly correct. You mentioned maths then never proved anything, and basically said you would fold. fair enough, but i dont see where you owned anything...

As for playing by feel as opposed to maths... thats clearly donkaments, I'm the most mathsy person I know, except perhaps my sister.

Almost all you ever have to go on in online poker is bet sizing. i just think here it says a lot. Im not saying it says enough for me to risk all my chips, but it certainly makes me think about it.

Just out of interest, what range do you put him on, making it half his stack?

Oh and btw, I love this thread too... it was the first one ever where you talked about poker

wildrick wrote:[...]

Oh and btw, I love this thread too... it was the first one ever where you talked about poker

Now that was witty as fcuk for 4am in the morning!

wildrick wrote:
As for playing by feel as opposed to maths... thats clearly donkaments, I'm the most mathsy person I know, except perhaps my sister.

Agreed!

wildrick wrote:
Almost all you ever have to go on in online poker is bet sizing. i just think here it says a lot. Im not saying it says enough for me to risk all my chips, but it certainly makes me think about it.

+1! I've read this post with interest and agree that the raise is very strange. I'd never be folding this in an online tournament of this size btw, no matter what the bet size. The amount of times I say "he's got AA" and STILL call is not beyond a joke though!

MADV wrote:

wildrick wrote:[...]

Oh and btw, I love this thread too... it was the first one ever where you talked about poker

Now that was witty as fcuk for 4am in the morning!

tyty, I'm here all night day week the time

When people make these seemingly mega raises I always (perhaps rightly or wrongly) put them on hands that they know are in the top range pre-flop, but then don't always like or know what to do with post flop.

In poker stove i'll give them things like 99 to JJ, AKo AQo, AKs AQs and KQs KQo.

Stove LOVES your QQ, but as always you could be right and still be beaten or be wrong and have to uninstal Poker Stove.

I must admit a few times in SNGs I have shoved or mega-raised very early with AA or KK JUST because people often won't believe you have got the good, have no history or feel for your game, and also might be specifcially in a $30 turbo SNG because they don't have much time and are happy to blart their way through the game anyway.

None of that is useful is it?

Just wanted to join in I guess.

BYE!!!!!!!!

The re-raise is too large to normally mean a hand that is beating QQ so realistically the worst case (and most probable) scenario is that you are up against AK.

You have to assume that if you shove your opponent is not folding unless he is on an absolute bluff and also cant count very well.

It is also very dependant on your perception of the player. If you know them to be a good player (and you know they know you are a good player) then i would mostly fold.

In fact i think i would probably fold unless i had a resonable belief that the specific player in question was prone to making similar moves with sub-standard hands.

It is also important to consider the over all quality of your opponents, if you generally believe that you are one of the better players in the game (if you dont you should not be sat there) then probably flipping for your stack at level one is not optimal.

As the end game of most STT involve fold or shove the increase in your over all position by doubling up here does not, imo, justify the risk of losing a probable flip.

Added to that i am naturally a tight rock like player i like to fold.